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Monday, 26 January 2015

Avast, Free antivirus software?



Person1.. Free antivirus software that doesn't interfere w/ System Restore:

So I just found out that Avast was the culprit behind my System Restore (Windows 8.1) throwing a 0x80070005 error. Upon researching, apparently there have been many reports of antivirus software that are constantly doing this, rendering the feature useless. But I couldn't find any info on which ones do not. Does any such product exist? Or perhaps the better question is, which ones other than Avast have been reported of doing this?

Now, I know that a quick solution is to disable or uninstall the antivirus first before running the restore. But that requires the ability to log on. I've been in a situation where restore failed after running it from startup. Hence, I'm thinking that Avast was still the culprit, if that's possible. In that case, is there any way to disable/uninstall the antivirus w/o logging on normally?

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Person2

In that case, is there any way to disable/uninstall the antivirus w/o logging on normally?
No. How would it qualify as security software if it could be disabled without the proper credentials?

Person1
I found this alternate solution: http://youtu.be/A9yArbiAHHY

Though if Avast was indeed the culprit in my startup issue w/ SR, then the self-defense module would have to be disabled permanently. Which may or may not be a good idea. However, it does raise the question of whether other antivirus programs have this feature and also interrupt w/ SR.

Person2

I found this alternate solution: http://youtu.be/A9yArbiAHHY 

That's good to know. Thanks for sharing.

Though if Avast was indeed the culprit in my startup issue w/ SR, then the self-defense module would have to be disabled permanently. Which may or may not be a good idea. However, it does raise the question of whether other antivirus programs have this feature and also interrupt w/ SR.

I suspect that any anti-virus program worth its salt would have some kind of self-protection feature. Even the old Norton Antivirus 2006, which I used prior to Avast, had a self-protection feature.

I don't understand what your startup issue with System Restore is, but do you really need to use System Restore that much, that you'd consider permanently disabling Avast's self-defense module? I haven't used System Restore once in the last ten years!

Person1
I did recently on two computers. Basically, both machines (a desktop and a laptop) suddenly couldn't startup. SR worked for my laptop but failed for my desktop, so I had to refresh the latter's OS. It's such a stressful hassle. I just want to take the proper precautions for some peace of mind in case something like this ever happens again.

The person who uploaded the video says that he also has the self-defense module disabled, and is waiting for the next update which supposedly will fix the problem.

BTW, Norton is apparently the most notorious when it comes to clashing w/ SR on this issue. Which makes sense given what you just pointed out about it.

Person2

The person who uploaded the video says that he also has the self-defense module disabled, and is waiting for the next update which supposedly will fix the problem.


I haven't had to use System Restore since I was running Windows Me, which was well over a decade ago. I've had three operating systems since then (2000, XP, and now 7), and thankfully I haven't needed to run SR once.

BTW, Norton is apparently the most notorious when it comes to clashing w/ SR on this issue. Which makes sense given what you just pointed out about it.


I recall that back in the day Symantec advised Norton users to disable product protection prior to installing Windows XP SP3. The SP3 install tried to create and then delete registry keys, and Norton product protection prevented the deletion of these temporary registry keys. I can see how there could be a conflict with System Restore.

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