Thursday, 26 February 2015

Downloaded videos

Discussing about Downloaded videos

Is it possible to burn videos bought and downloaded from iTunes onto blank DVDRs so they can be played in DVD players? I was thinking it would be nice to buy a bunch of them and put them onto a disc to to play in a regular DVD player connected to a big screen TV.

I burn music from iTunes and Amazon onto CDRs that work in CD players, but I was thinking music videos might be different.

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Personal B
I'm not sure about that. It seems counter productive though. Why not just buy physical copies. You can rip the files & play them on anything you want. Along with burning those files onto a disc. Then you can resale the original copy you bought.

Personal A
When has it ever been possible to buy physical copies of music videos? Only place I ever saw them is on MTV and now they are on YouTube. I've only seen a few DVDs of music videos and they only had maybe ten on them at the most, and never the ones I wanted.

I'm not wanting to sell them, I just wanted to make a DVD with a bunch of videos on it that I could watch on a regular TV with a DVD player.

Personal C
What format are they? If it's mp4 or avi you should have no trouble playing them from a DVDR or even just USB since the majority of players now are compatible with those formats. Unless you're using a DVD player from 10 years ago.

Personal A
I don't know what format the videos are. I haven't actually bought any yet. But iTunes is famous for non-compatible formats.

My DVD player is from about 2006. It plays DVDRs I burned myself but will not play Warner Archive Collection DVDRs. They only play on my computer.

Personal C
Usually you can tell what format they are either

Actually, just get a Blu Ray player, even you don't intend to use the format, the player will still provide an increase in DVD image quality as well as the aforementioned multiple file-type compatibility.

Also, if you have trouble with iTunes files on non-Apple devices, usually they can be converted to another format (avi or similar) with a simple freeware program.

Personal A
I've only downloaded music from iTunes. I just burn it onto a disc with iTunes and then rip the contents of the disc to my computer. Then the songs become mp3 files.

A blu ray player would probably be better. If I buy a new DVD player I'd want one with a recorder in it, and there are only two made anymore.

Personal C
Do you mean you're burning files to audio CD then ripping to mp3? That actually causes even further degradation of quality since the mp3 compression algorithm can't discriminate between a regular CD and compressed files burned as CDDA files. A converter program would allow you to retain the full quality of the original file, otherwise a lot of the low-end and high-end frequencies can end up being gutted twice over and results in a file that will sound distorted at higher volumes...

As for recorders, from what i've noticed the price difference between a BD recorder and DVD recorder is very small these days. Plus the blue laser is capable of much more accurate error correction, which means DVDs that may have skipped on a DVD player will play without any problems in most cases.

Personal A
Yes, that's what I was doing. As far as I know my burning program only deals with mp3 and wav files. Nothing sounds distorted but I haven't played anything at that high a volume. I don't have any complaints about how my music sounds, at least not yet. I have been told in the past that wav files are inferior to mp3. mp3 files are larger so it makes sense they would be better quality. I did use an online service to convert some incompatible files to mp3 before burning them, but they were low bandwidth and someone told me they weren't any good.

I didn't even know there were blu ray recorders. I was talking about DVD burners.

Personal C
Huh? PCM WAV files are uncompressed direct copies from CDDA format. Mp3s are busted down to anywhere from 1/10th to 1/3rd of the original file size. A lot of the compression artefacts are difficult for the human ear to detect but they become more obvious at high volumes, or when played on high-grade equipment. The only way a WAV file could be smaller than an mp3 is if it's encoded at some ridiculously low bit rate, which would indeed cause quality loss.

Blu Ray recorders/burners have been out for a while, both for computers and home theater. They're compatible with blank DVD discs too.

Personal A
I checked and the MPEG 4 audio files and wav files are about 2 mega

A few months back Best Buy didn't have any recorders other than the two DVD burners.

Personal C
That's odd, but I guess wav files can be any size. Bitrate varies a lot too, mp3s can be anywhere from 32kbps (sounds like total crap) to 320kbps (sounds good). The wav files you had must have been low bitrate. Loud doesn't always equal good though, the louder a digital audio file sounds the more likely it is to clip and distort, which results in an unpleasant harshness to the sound.

I'm not sure about the US market, it seems to be quite unique. Perhaps try a more specialized store as big chain stores often have a very limited range of electronics.

Personal A
One person some time back was talking a lot about bitrate. He said the files that were anything less than 320 weren't so good. Maybe I should hang on to the MPEG 4 files I still have. I have my music software set to rip at 320, so anything I rip from a CD is 320. Files I've bought from Amazon are 280.

But in regards to music video files, I'll buy a few and see what format they come in. From what you're telling me it would be easier then to determine what procedure I should use to get them onto discs.

Personal C
Yeah, 320 is pretty much the only bitrate worth bothering with.. anything above 192 is okay but still loses a lot of low-end clarity. CDs run at 1.4mbps, quite a significant difference.

I'd say it's a 90% certainly that music videos from iTunes are either mp4 or mov format, both of which will play from a USB or data disc on the newer Sony BD players. If you want to burn them to a DVD-R that will play as a standard DVD disc, there's plenty of freeware converters available that can easily do that too.

Personal A
I'm sure it's easy enough. I'll readily admit that I'm pretty behind in technology.

Personal C
It's a damn minefield for sure, very hard to keep track of everything. Even salesmen in those departments can't keep up. Last time I bought a BD player I told the rep I needed one with on-board HD audio decoding and he had no idea what I was talking about...

Personal E
I'm pretty close to say no of the possibilities of turning iTunes videos in to DVD or even Blu-ray if its in HD.
The reason is that most places like iTunes puts DRM inside their videos, there

Also one reason why the so called WEB-DL releases are in such a high demand on torrent and various forums. WEB-DL's are typically made of MP4's, where they have removed the DRM and then done muxing to a MKV file instead, so that playback is possible on any unit you can think of, who supports MKV playback.
Rarely recoding is done and that is only on the audio if it contains 5.1, then they convert the AAC in to AC3 for better support.

Personal D
Yes, with the right tools. You'd need something to decrypt the iTunes video files, then something to convert them to MPEG-2 NTSC VOBs and subsequently to a DVD structure and image, then burn the image onto a DVD. There are I'm sure many different tools and workflows that can accomplish this, but if I had to do it on my computer right now with the apps I have, I'd use AVS4Mac M4V Converter Plus for the decryption, VisualHub to convert the file to a DVD image, then Toast Titanium to burn to DVD. The M4V Converter and Toast are both paid apps, and VisualHub is long-abandoned shareware.

Personal F
Are we making assumptions about the downloaded files which may not be true? The m4v files I’ve downloaded from iTunes don’t have to be decrypted at all. It’s a simple to run them through a video editor (they need to be encoded anyway) outputted as MPEG/MPG with AC3 audio at 48K. If one sets compliant FPS and dimension (720 x 480 for example), any DVD authoring tool, such as Nero, can easily add the DVD video structure without re-encoding. No way (or reason for that matter) to worry about “VOBs” because that’s part of the DVD structure added

Personal D
I'm not sure about music videos, but TV episodes and feature-length films from iTunes are indeed encrypted and can't just be plopped into an editor. I speak from experience--I've put together reels for friends who are actors where they've given me crappy DVDs or low-res files as the source, and (lacking "other" ways to get the material) I decided to use an iTunes download instead as the source to provide them with a higher-quality reel for their website; it's why I purchased that app I mentioned earlier in the first place.

And as I mentioned in my earlier post, there *are* multiple tools and workflows one can use; the one I outlines is simply the one I'd go with, with the applications I already have, and the quality and control that I want. Once that m4v is decrypted, whatever tools one uses to turn video files into a playable DVD will suffice.

Personal C
Yeah it makes sense that movies and TV shows would have DRM. Music videos are more of a promotional thing, no one makes any real money from them so there's no real need to control their distribution so tightly.

Personal G
If it comes as AVS, why not just master to a Blu-ray file system, and skip the transcoding? You can record BD-5 and BD-9 discs using standard DVD media to save money. With Blu-ray players as cheap as DVD video players, why not?

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